Exclusive Interview: Cinemax’s New Series ‘Girl’s Guide To Depravity’ Stars Rebecca Blumhagen & Sally Golan Talk About Girls, Depravity and Invading Romania (Sort Of)

Rebecca Blumhagen and Sally Golan

Rebecca Blumhagen and Sally Golan

Single men out there on the prowl, listen up. You are in trouble. I repeat, you are in trouble. Something dangerous is coming and it is going to change the rules of the game for everyone.

The new Cinemax series ‘Girl’s Guide To Depravity‘ follows two best friends Samantha (Rebecca Blumhagen) and Lizzie (Sally Golan) who, after being repeatedly disappointed with the dating scene, adopted a series of new rules – The Rules of Depravity – “which are designed for maximum pleasure and minimal heartbreak.”

TV Equals had the immense pleasure to chat with the two stars of the show, Rebecca Blumhagen and Sally Golan, about what viewers should be expecting in the series, what rule they like the most and how the series compares to “Sex and The City”.

Check out what they had to say below and don’t forget to tune in tonight for the premiere episode of ‘Girl’s Guide To Depravity’ at 11 pm on Cinemax. (Bonus: at the end of the article, there will be some exclusive clips of the series)

How would you describe the series to someone who’s never heard of it?

Rebecca Blumhagen: The series is about two girls, young single ladies who are sort of trying to take on Chicago by storm, following a very specific set of unconventional rules which they find in the rulebook entitled “The Girls Guide to Depravity” which is based on a blog by Heather Rutman of the same name. She has a book coming out in May.

Can you talk about your characters?

Sally Golan: My character’s name is Lizzie and she’s extremely by the rules. She’s a powerhouse. She’s a man-eater. She’s aggressive, super strict.

Rebecca Blumhagen: I play Sam. She’s very optimistic and constantly fails at everything she tries, especially in the dating world. So, they make a good pair.

Will we see you guys as friends already or is there going to be an origin story?

Sally Golan: Yeah, at the very height of our friendship and also at the height of our obsession with the rules. It starts off with Lizzie breaking up with her recent ex who she’s still in love with and Sam trying to go after this one guy who’s she already been out on three dates with. One of the rules is always bring the guy home on the first date. That’s how a depraved girl would do it in this show. A depraved girl doesn’t wait ten dates. A depraved girl brings him home right away. So, Lizzie chastises Sam for waiting three days. She’s like, ‘Hello. Time is ticking.’

Were you familiar of the blog before you got the roles or have you read the upcoming novel?

Rebecca Blumhagen: We haven’t read the book. No one has read it yet. It’s not out until May, but we are in touch with the author and she’s available for advice, not just for us but really to anyone. She has a Twitter handle. She has a Facebook page.

Sally Golan: I don’t think I knew the blog or the writer before I was cast. I was obviously looking it up when I was cast and was laughing hysterically and was also kind of intimidated by some of the material because it is so crass and so intense. But that’s what makes it so special, what makes it so much fun to portray because both of these characters are such far stretches from who we are in real life.

Rebecca Blumhagen and Sally Golan

Rebecca Blumhagen and Sally Golan

Who do you feel this will resonate with the most, women or men or both?

Rebecca Blumhagen: I think it will resonate equally. I think women will watch it and want to be like us and men will watch it and want to be with us.

How many episodes did you shoot and how long did it take?

Sally Golan: We shot thirteen episodes. It took about five and a half weeks. Lo and behold, we shot in Romania on sets that were built just for the show because in Eastern Europe, production is a lot cheaper. We were flown out there to shoot all the interiors there, and then the show takes place in Chicago. So, we were doing a four day shoot in Chicago, outside.

How was Romania?

Rebecca Blumhagen: It’s amazing. It’s such a beautiful place, several culture coexisting. I felt really lucky to even just have had the chance to be there. I hope that I get to go again one day.

What was the funniest moment during production?

Rebecca Blumhagen: I guess there were a couple of ideas that we came up with on our own that we didn’t really tell the director or anyone about and just sort of tried out. One time Sally, who’s playing Lizzie, she threw a pen at her coworker and it hit him in the face and it was just such a real moment that captured who her character was. The actor was like, ‘What?’ His reaction was real.

Sally Golan: He sat there stunned. In the show his line is, ‘Can I have my pen back,’ and so I slap it in his face. The whole crew was trying so hard to not bust up the take because they were laughing so hard. That was a lot of fun. One of the funniest moments was also off camera, off the production when we all went out and just had a lot of fun. We all ended up stumbling into some weird Romanian club with the most outrageous music. Everyone there must’ve been underage. We had to be the oldest people in that club and I’m not that old. That was really strange and we just ended up kind of taking over, and of course, we’re like, ‘Only Americans would do this. Only Americans would invade, yet again.’ You get in to all kinds of adventures when you’re shooting in this intense amount of time.

What was the toughest moment?

Rebecca Blumhagen: We were just shooting on such a hard schedule that there were just days when we were getting in at three o’clock in the morning and we’re still shooting, trying to come up with ways to just stay true to the character and the material. But it was good. It really brought out a grass roots, like, ‘Hey, if we’re going to do this we’re going to do it together,’ kind of spirit. The whole cast bonded. It was such hard work, but it shows in the show, I think, because we really had to put everything into it in order to pull it off.

Sally Golan: Just to add to what Rebecca just said, the toughest part of this production was just shooting so completely out of sequence. Normally you’re used to that, but we shot out of sequence to the point of it being so jumbled we had to really, really imagine where we were in the story and build arcs that we didn’t get the chance to do. So, that was tough.

What was the most surprising moment?

Rebecca Blumhagen: I guess when people laugh at my jokes I’m always surprised and infinitely pleased.

Sally Golan: It was how amazing the cast bonded because truthfully I didn’t expect that. You’re shooting so much in such a little amount of time and you’re in the middle of nowhere. I’ve been on sets before, been on productions before where I haven’t stayed in touch with anybody, not because you don’t like them, but you just don’t. It’s just work. We’ve become a real family. That was really surprising.

What’s your favorite rule out of the guide?

Sally Golan: We have a lovely list of them. I think always be the last woman standing is hilarious and only because I’ve been there. There was this one guy I had a big time crush on and so did three other women at that party, and man oh man, were we playing pool for far too long. That pool game. And none of us are good at it, and none of the ladies wanted to leave because they knew if they left they didn’t stand a chance with the guy. So, I ended up playing way too much pool and I just gave up. I was like, ‘This sucks. I’m not getting anywhere.’

Rebecca Blumhagen: I would say that my favorite rule is don’t cry. Make him cry. You have to turn it around, men.

That’s cold blooded. I’m afraid now.

Sally Golan: You should be.

Rebecca Blumhagen: Don’t worry. Our bark is bigger than our bite.

There have been a few comparisons to ‘Sex and the City.’ What do you guys think about that?

Sally Golan: I think that’s natural. We’re naturally going to be compared to ‘Sex and the City’ because of the nature and the content, but truthfully we’re really nothing like that show. I think we’re nothing like a lot of shows. We’re really edgy, really crass, really extreme, really comedic, and finally this is a show that both men and women can enjoy where ‘Sex and the City’ was really geared towards women and then finally men tuned in later on. But for us I think it’s quite equal.

Rebecca Blumhagen: I also think that ‘Sex and the City’ is a little more romanticized than our show. I mean, naturally with material like this it can tend towards that direction, but even though it’s comedic and it’s extreme it’s also realistic. It doesn’t usually turn out well, especially for my character.

Do you guys have any other upcoming projects you can talk about?

Sally Golan: I have a TV series that I’m creating called ‘Shitty Advice For A Dollar.’ It’s about four characters and they’re struggles in New York and how they come across a homeless man who offers that crappy advice for a dollar, and how his advice ends up being prophetic later on in their lives and in that episode. So, it’s kind of like a true take on what it’s like to be in New York and what it’s like to struggle a little bit.

Rebecca Blumhagen: I shot a little documentary in Africa this summer. You can see it online. I shot in Tanzania. It’s so beautiful. I’ve been there six times. It’s a place, a world unlike any other and everyone would be vastly privileged to experience it in some way.

If you could guest star on any other TV show, your pick of the litter, which one would it be?

Sally Golan: I’m jumping in my seat. ‘True Blood.’ I have to be on that show. I have to be a blood sucking vampire. Please, God, may I be on that show. May the world hear this.

I heard it’s great to be on tha show, but that it sucks to be a vampire and have to wear those fangs.

Sally Golan: I think that would suck, too, but I’m a weirdo. I’m fully capable of doing that. I think that I was a cat in a past life or something.

Rebecca Blumhagen: I’d like to be some kind of detective or action hero, maybe even a superhero.

Sally Golan: That’s funny coming from Rebecca’s mouth because she looks about eleven years old right now with a hat on. You have to see her.

Rebecca Blumhagen: I’m wearing a stocking cap my mom knitted me from yarn that I got from a peasant in Romania.

Detectives are in right now. There’s Rooney Mara in ‘Girl With The Dragon Tattoo.’

Rebecca Blumhagen: I know. She’s brilliant and so unconventional. I love seeing women cast that way.


‘Girl’s Guide To Depravity’ premieres tonight at 11 pm on Cinemax. Check out a preview and three exclusive clips here:

(Photo Credit: Tudor Cucu/Cinemax)